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02/26/2002 Entry: "For TU"

I saw a post over at Totally-Useless. Rather than answer in his commnets section (rather too long for a comment), I thought I'd post it here.

1. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
(TU) Yeah, um extremely religous. Rather silly really.
(Bill) What kind of argument is "rather silly." I think vegetarianism is silly. Does that make it not valid?

2. Left blank
(TU) WTF?? I won't go near this one, its way too weird.
(Bill) Graven images? You know, idols? The living God commands his followers not to bow down to rocks or trees or gold donkeys. Not so strange, I think.

3. "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain"
(TU) Umm, I got tired of waiting to be struck down for this one.
(Bill) Struck down by whom? The God you don’t believe in?

4. "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God
(TU) Yeah, everyone breaks this one.
(Bill) Gross generalization. I know many people who don’t work on the Lord’s day. Also remember, the sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath.

5. "Honour thy father and thy mother"
(TU) This is very very vague, but yeah I guess I honor them. It's a given and I think another to make an even 10.
(Bill) God’s concerned with symmetry so much that he adds extra rules to round them out? God’s number is 7. Why wouldn’t he use that?

6. "Thou shalt not kill."
(TU) Yeah, I killed alot of bugs. Eaten alot of animals in my non-veggie days.
(Bill) Ever committed murder? Ever taken an innocent life? Me either. We’re both spared from this one, I guess.

7. "Thou shalt not commit adultery."
(TU) Oral Sex=Sodomy - and Sodomy=adultery. Oh yeah. We try to break this one a couple times a week.
(Bill) This is what prompted my whole post. Oral sex does not equal sodomy, and neither does sodomy constitute adultery. That’s just plain misleading. You can believe whatever you want. I’ve explained what I believe to you enough times. But to just say oral sex is sodomy, and then show nothing to back it up, is irresponsible at best.

8. "Thou shalt not steal."
(TU) Never stollen an item, a few mp3s count though
(Bill) You’re a better man than I am on this one. I’ve stolen candy when I was younger; Money from Mom’s purse; Renita Harrington’s Rubick’s Chain.

9. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."
(TU) Just another silly one, probably added to make an even 10
(Bill) Lying. You’re right, just silly. Just hopin’ to get the page filled.

10. "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house"
(TU) I covet my neighbors paintball gun and computer and house.... Many many of my neighbors covet my Sony WEGA TV.
(Bill) There’s a difference between coveting and wanting. I like your TV. I’d like to have a TV like yours. I don’t say "TU doesn’t deserve a TV that nice. It should be mine, ‘cause I’m worth it and he isn’t." That’s coveting.

Here’s the gist of the whole thing: You’re going to break the commandments. That’s the point! The Law of Moses was given to man to show us what God’s standards are. The big 10 are just as important as the other hundreds. If you’ve broken one law (like eating shrimp, for example), you are guilty of breaking the whole thing. Thus, the need for the Messiah.

Replies: 2 people have rocked the mic!

So eloquent! I'm proud of you. (Lord, forgive me for my boasting. I'm just very proud of my brother!)

Posted by Your Sister @ 02/26/2002 07:48 PM EST

Very interesting. Gave food for thought. Often times, it seems, there is no tolerance for either side of "the religion" debate. Appreciate your respect and hope this serves as an example for others when presenting thier views.

Posted by Randi @ 03/01/2002 10:12 AM EST

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